## Motivation Windows API timers are notorious for crashing. I've been using them for years to workaround a nasty bug that makes User Defined Functions (UDFs) very slow in Excel when calculated in Automatic mode. For a couple of years I've been using Windows API timers to interrupt calculation and then calculate everything in Manual calculation mode. Here is the current GitHub [commit](https://github.com/cristianbuse/VBA-FastExcelUDFs/tree/a196f1bf830d4e9e6fb0a14cdd81462bffcc0433). Timers were quite bad in Office 32-bit as they crashed quite often, especially if state was lost. In 64-bit they seem even worse as a simple code break will crash Excel. Or, if the application is too busy, the timers will simply crash it. I needed a replacement solution. I've considered stuff like: - ```Application.OnTime``` which does not work unfortunately when called from a UDF context and fails when debugging and in a few other niche scenarios - Using sheet calculate events is useless as I do not want to wait for the calculations to run - Using a custom RibbonUI object to trigger callbacks works somewhat but only if the ribbon has fully loaded. It also adds the extra hassle of managing the internal XML refs and is not easily portable But none were useful. ## What is already available [@Greedo](https://codereview.stackexchange.com/users/146810/greedo) has done an excellent job in documenting WIN API timers [here](https://github.com/Greedquest/VBA-Timing-Methods) and even posted [this framework](https://codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/229656/tick-tick-breathe-boom-setting-up-real-stable-asynchronous-callbacks-wit) which provides nice wrappers. Unfortunately, this is still crashing. Then there is stuff like [this](https://github.com/thetrik/VbTrickTimer). Looks cool for someone like me who does not understand assembly but it does not work at all on any of my 32 or 64-bit Office 365. Not even one 'tick' event is raised. There are also countless other posts on the web using either Win API timers or ```Application.OnTime``` but none solve my issue. ## Solution In truth, I did not even need timers. I only needed something like ```Application.OnTime``` but more reliable. Regardless, I ended up with 2 solutions, both using a second Excel instance: 1. Wrapped Win API timers - works on Windows only 2. Plain Excel functionality - works on Win and Mac but does not work when Excel has a modal window on or while editing formulas I started a new GitHub repository for this: [Excel-VBA-SafeTimers](https://github.com/cristianbuse/Excel-VBA-SafeTimers) which already contains the first solution. I will present the first solution here but I will post the second solution to the repository at a later stage. **Win API solution** The solution only involves one class module and one standard module: - ```LibTimers.bas``` - ```SafeDispatch.cls``` The ```LibTimers``` module exposes wrappers for [SetTimer](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winuser/nf-winuser-settimer) and [KillTimer](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winuser/nf-winuser-killtimer) which match the exact function signatures as the Windows counterparts. This makes it easy to update existing projects to use this library. When called for the first time the ```SetTimer``` wrapper initializes the second application instance. Alternatively, there is an ```InitTimers``` method that can be called at any time e.g. at ```Workbook_Open```. When the second instance of Excel is created there are 2 possible cases: 1. A book is created and saved as an add-in. All the code needed is placed at the bottom of the ```LibTimers``` module as string so that users have full visibility of the entire code. This works **even if there is no trusted access to the VB Object Model** - see the private ```CreateBookInRemoteApp``` method 2. The book/add-in already exists and so it is simply opened in the remote app instance. If multiple books within the current application instance are using timers, then the same remote app instance will be used for all of them. The remote code is 'smart' enough to manage multiple workbooks. Also, the local code can find the remote instance if it's already running. That second instance runs a continuos loop which [posts](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winuser/nf-winuser-postmessagea) messages back to the initial application instance. There is only one 'real' main timer callback (```TimerProc```) per workbook and it's the only one affected by the posted messages from the remote app. When called, it safely [dispatches](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winuser/nf-winuser-dispatchmessage) messages to the relevant procedures (timer procs). No timers are left hanging. Even if state is lost, the remote app will make sure to call the book timer so that it can remove itself. The remote application is automatically terminated when there are no more books left to manage i.e. the current application was closed. Safety features: - Timers are removed from the remote app when state is lost. Also the 'main' timer is killed in the receiving app - Timers are not called when the receiving application is busy or code is in break mode. This allows safe debugging. For this, a child window of the ```Locals``` window is regularly queried remotely - ```SafeDispatch.cls``` was added to avoid crashes when the 'Stop' button is pressed (or ```End``` is called) in the timer callbacks especially for 32-bit Excel. Did not seem to be needed on 64-bit - No new timer message is posted until the previous one was dispatched even if multiple books are using the remote app Although I've put a lot of thought into this, there are still a few edge cases where the application can crash but really easy to avoid as they involve intentional interaction: 1. On 32-bit Excel, if the 'Stop' button is pressed inside the private ```TimerProc``` inside the ```LibTimers``` module. However, 'Stop' can be pressed with no issue inside the receiving timer procs which are the actual callbacks used. This does not affect real use 2. When the timer callback passed to ```SetTimer``` as the ```lpTimerFunc``` is not valid. This can happen if: - ```AddressOf``` was not used i.e. a bad function pointer was passed - The callback becomes unavailable i.e. the method is removed by being deleted or commented. This also is not an issue in real use There may be other niche cases but in the testing that I've done, the solution was completely stable. The solution does not use any external dependencies. Only API calls. The remote application instance is efficient through the use of the [Sleep](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/synchapi/nf-synchapi-sleep) API. After the initial startup, the CPU drops to less than 0.5% on my x64 Excel and less than 1% on x32. **Implementation** ```LibTimers``` standard module: ```VBA '''============================================================================= ''' Excel-VBA-SafeTimers ''' ---------------------------------------------------- ''' https://github.com/cristianbuse/Excel-VBA-SafeTimers ''' ---------------------------------------------------- ''' MIT License ''' ''' Copyright (c) 2022 Ion Cristian Buse ''' ''' Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy ''' of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to ''' deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the ''' rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or ''' sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is ''' furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: ''' ''' The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in ''' all copies or substantial portions of the Software. ''' ''' THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR ''' IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, ''' FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE ''' AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER ''' LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING ''' FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS ''' IN THE SOFTWARE. '''============================================================================= Option Explicit Option Private Module #If VBA7 = 0 Then 'LongPtr trick discovered by @Greedo (https://github.com/Greedquest) Public Enum LongPtr [_] End Enum 'Kindly given here: #End If 'https://github.com/cristianbuse/VBA-MemoryTools/issues/3 Private Type GUID data1 As Long data2 As Integer data3 As Integer data4(0 To 7) As Byte End Type #If VBA7 Then Private Declare PtrSafe Function AccessibleObjectFromWindow Lib "oleacc" (ByVal hWnd As LongPtr, ByVal dwId As Long, riid As GUID, ppvObject As Object) As Long Private Declare PtrSafe Function EnumThreadWindows Lib "user32" (ByVal dwThreadId As Long, ByVal lpfn As LongPtr, ByVal lParam As LongPtr) As Long Private Declare PtrSafe Function FindWindowEx Lib "user32" Alias "FindWindowExA" (ByVal hWnd1 As LongPtr, ByVal hWnd2 As LongPtr, ByVal lpsz1 As String, ByVal lpsz2 As String) As LongPtr Private Declare PtrSafe Function GetClassName Lib "user32" Alias "GetClassNameA" (ByVal hWnd As LongPtr, ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal nMaxCount As Long) As Long Private Declare PtrSafe Function GetCurrentThreadId Lib "kernel32" () As Long Private Declare PtrSafe Function KillTimerAPI Lib "user32" Alias "KillTimer" (ByVal hWnd As LongPtr, ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr) As Long Private Declare PtrSafe Function SetTimerAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetTimer" (ByVal hWnd As LongPtr, ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr, ByVal uElapse As Long, ByVal lpTimerFunc As LongPtr) As LongPtr #Else Private Declare Function AccessibleObjectFromWindow Lib "oleacc" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal dwId As Long, riid As GUID, ppvObject As Object) As Long Private Declare Function EnumThreadWindows Lib "user32" (ByVal dwThreadId As Long, ByVal lpfn As Long, ByVal lParam As Long) As Long Private Declare Function FindWindowEx Lib "user32" Alias "FindWindowExA" (ByVal hWnd1 As Long, ByVal hWnd2 As Long, ByVal lpsz1 As String, ByVal lpsz2 As String) As Long Private Declare Function GetClassName Lib "user32" Alias "GetClassNameA" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal nMaxCount As Long) As Long Private Declare Function GetCurrentThreadId Lib "kernel32" () As Long Private Declare Function KillTimerAPI Lib "user32" Alias "KillTimer" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal nIDEvent As Long) As Long Private Declare Function SetTimerAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetTimer" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal nIDEvent As Long, ByVal uElapse As Long, ByVal lpTimerFunc As Long) As Long #End If Const USER_TIMER_MAXIMUM As Long = &H7FFFFFFF 'Around 25 days Private Const BOOK_NAME As String = "RemoteTimersAPI_V1.xlam" Private m_localTimers As Collection Private m_remoteTimers As Object Private m_VBIDEHWnd As LongPtr Private m_bookID As String '******************************************************************************* 'An enhanced 'Now' - returns the date and time including milliseconds '******************************************************************************* Public Function NowMs() As Date Const secondsPerDay As Long = 24& * 60& * 60& NowMs = Date + Round(Timer, 3) / secondsPerDay End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Safe wrapper around Win API 'https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winuser/nf-winuser-settimer 'Parameters: ' - hWnd: a handle to the window to be associated with the timer ' - nIDEvent: a nonzero timer identifier ' - uElapse: the time-out value, in milliseconds ' - lpTimerFunc: a pointer to the function to be notified '******************************************************************************* Public Function SetTimer(ByVal hWnd As LongPtr _ , ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr _ , ByVal uElapse As Long _ , ByVal lpTimerFunc As LongPtr) As LongPtr Const minDelay As Long = 1 Dim result As LongPtr ' If lpTimerFunc = 0 Then Exit Function If uElapse < minDelay Then uElapse = minDelay ' If Not InitTimers(False) Then Exit Function result = SetTimerAPI(hWnd, nIDEvent, USER_TIMER_MAXIMUM, lpTimerFunc) If result = 0 Then Exit Function KillTimerAPI hWnd, nIDEvent 'No longer needed ' If hWnd = 0 Then hWnd = Application.hWnd 'Save the implicit hWnd nIDEvent = result End If ' Dim sID As String: sID = GetTimerID(hWnd, nIDEvent) Dim remoteResult As Boolean ' On Error Resume Next remoteResult = m_remoteTimers.AddTimer(hWnd, nIDEvent, sID, uElapse) On Error GoTo 0 If Not remoteResult Then Exit Function ' On Error Resume Next m_localTimers.Remove sID m_localTimers.Add lpTimerFunc, sID 'Dispatch will need the TimerProc later On Error GoTo 0 ' SetTimer = result End Function '******************************************************************************* 'The only TimerProc called remotely '******************************************************************************* Private Sub TimerProc(ByVal hWnd As LongPtr _ , ByVal wMsg As Long _ , ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr _ , ByVal wTime As Long) Dim oPtr As LongPtr: oPtr = ObjPtr(ThisWorkbook) Dim rHWnd As LongPtr: rHWnd = GetReadyHWnd() ' KillTimerAPI rHWnd, oPtr 'Kill the only TimerProc If oPtr = nIDEvent Then Exit Sub ' On Error Resume Next Dim tProc As LongPtr: tProc = m_localTimers(GetTimerID(hWnd, nIDEvent)) On Error GoTo 0 If tProc = 0 Then Exit Sub 'State was lost ' Dim sDisp As New SafeDispatch 'Will dispatch msg on termination sDisp.Init hWnd, wMsg, nIDEvent, tProc, wTime, m_bookID ' SetTimerAPI rHWnd, oPtr, USER_TIMER_MAXIMUM, AddressOf TimerProc End Sub '******************************************************************************* 'Utility for collection keys '******************************************************************************* Private Function GetTimerID(ByVal hWnd As LongPtr _ , ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr) As String GetTimerID = hWnd & "_" & nIDEvent End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Safe wrapper around Win API 'https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winuser/nf-winuser-killtimer 'Parameters: ' - hWnd: a handle to the window associated with the specified timer ' - nIDEvent: the timer to be destroyed '******************************************************************************* Public Function KillTimer(ByVal hWnd As LongPtr _ , ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr) As Long Dim sID As String: sID = GetTimerID(hWnd, nIDEvent) Dim remoteResult As Boolean ' On Error Resume Next remoteResult = m_remoteTimers.DeleteTimer(sID) m_localTimers.Remove sID On Error GoTo 0 ' If remoteResult Then KillTimer = 1 End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Removes all existing timers '******************************************************************************* Public Sub RemoveAllTimers() On Error Resume Next If m_remoteTimers.DeleteAllTimers() Then Set m_localTimers = New Collection On Error GoTo 0 End Sub '******************************************************************************* 'Returns 'True' only if the object is set and still connected to the remote app '******************************************************************************* Private Function IsConnected(ByVal obj As Object) As Boolean If Not obj Is Nothing Then IsConnected = (TypeName(obj) <> "Object") End If End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Initializes the remote application instance and its resources e.g. code book 'Works regardless if VB Object Model access is on or off '******************************************************************************* Public Function InitTimers(Optional ByVal reCreateBook As Boolean = False) As Boolean If IsConnected(m_remoteTimers) Then InitTimers = True Exit Function End If ' Dim app As Application Dim bookExists As Boolean: bookExists = IsFile(GetBookPath()) ' If reCreateBook And bookExists Then On Error Resume Next Kill GetBookPath() bookExists = (Err.Number <> 0) On Error GoTo 0 If bookExists Then Exit Function End If If bookExists Then Set app = GetRemoteApp() Else Set app = CreateBookInRemoteApp() End If ' Dim tProc As LongPtr: tProc = VBA.Int(AddressOf TimerProc) Dim oPtr As LongPtr: oPtr = ObjPtr(ThisWorkbook) Dim rHWnd As LongPtr: rHWnd = GetReadyHWnd() m_bookID = CStr(oPtr) ' Set m_localTimers = New Collection Set m_remoteTimers = app.Run("GetBookTimers", rHWnd, m_bookID, tProc) SetTimerAPI rHWnd, oPtr, USER_TIMER_MAXIMUM, tProc ' InitTimers = True End Function Private Function IsFile(ByVal filePath As String) As Boolean On Error Resume Next IsFile = ((GetAttr(filePath) And vbDirectory) <> vbDirectory) On Error GoTo 0 End Function Private Function GetBookPath() As String Dim folderPath As String: folderPath = Environ$("temp") GetBookPath = folderPath & Application.PathSeparator & BOOK_NAME End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Returns the existing remote app or opens a new one if needed '******************************************************************************* Private Function GetRemoteApp() As Application Dim mainHWnd As LongPtr Dim remoteHWnd As LongPtr Dim app As Application Dim book As Workbook ' Do Set app = GetNextApplication(mainHWnd) If Not app Is Nothing Then Set book = Nothing remoteHWnd = 0 ' On Error Resume Next Set book = app.Workbooks(BOOK_NAME) If Not book Is Nothing Then remoteHWnd = app.Run("GetReadyHWnd") End If On Error GoTo 0 If remoteHWnd = GetReadyHWnd() Then Exit Do Set app = Nothing End If Loop Until mainHWnd = 0 If app Is Nothing Then Set app = NewApp() app.Workbooks.Open GetBookPath(), False, False End If Set GetRemoteApp = app End Function Private Function GetNextApplication(ByRef mainHWnd As LongPtr) As Application mainHWnd = FindWindowEx(0, mainHWnd, "XLMAIN", vbNullString) If mainHWnd = 0 Then Exit Function ' Dim w As Window For Each w In Application.Windows If w.hWnd = mainHWnd Then Exit Function Next w ' Const OBJID_NATIVEOM As Long = &HFFFFFFF0 Dim deskHWnd As LongPtr Dim excelHWnd As LongPtr Dim wnd As Window ' deskHWnd = FindWindowEx(mainHWnd, 0, "XLDESK", vbNullString) If deskHWnd = 0 Then Exit Function excelHWnd = FindWindowEx(deskHWnd, 0, "EXCEL7", vbNullString) If excelHWnd = 0 Then Exit Function ' AccessibleObjectFromWindow excelHWnd, OBJID_NATIVEOM, IDispGuid(), wnd If wnd Is Nothing Then Exit Function Set GetNextApplication = wnd.Application End Function Private Function IDispGuid() As GUID With IDispGuid 'IDispatch .data1 = &H20400 .data4(0) = &HC0 .data4(7) = &H46 End With End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Creates a new app instance and sets certain properties '******************************************************************************* Private Function NewApp() As Application Set NewApp = New Application With NewApp .Visible = False .PrintCommunication = False .ScreenUpdating = False .DisplayAlerts = False .EnableEvents = False .Interactive = False End With End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Creates a book, adds the code, saves it and returns the Application instance '******************************************************************************* Private Function CreateBookInRemoteApp() As Application Const vbext_ct_StdModule As Long = 1 Const vbext_ct_ClassModule As Long = 2 Const publicNotCreatable As Long = 2 ' Dim app As Application Dim book As Workbook Dim isVBOMOn As Boolean: isVBOMOn = IsVBOMEnabled() ' If Not isVBOMOn Then If Not EnableOfficeVBOM(True) Then Exit Function End If ' On Error GoTo SafeExit Set app = NewApp() Set book = app.Workbooks.Add ' With book.VBProject.VBComponents.Add(vbext_ct_ClassModule).CodeModule If .CountOfLines > 0 Then .DeleteLines 1, .CountOfLines .AddFromString TimerContainerCode() .Parent.Name = "TimerContainer" End With With book.VBProject.VBComponents.Add(vbext_ct_ClassModule).CodeModule If .CountOfLines > 0 Then .DeleteLines 1, .CountOfLines .AddFromString BookTimersCode() .Parent.Name = "BookTimers" .Parent.Properties("Instancing") = publicNotCreatable End With With book.VBProject.VBComponents.Add(vbext_ct_ClassModule).CodeModule If .CountOfLines > 0 Then .DeleteLines 1, .CountOfLines .AddFromString AppTimersCode() .Parent.Name = "AppTimers" End With With book.VBProject.VBComponents.Add(vbext_ct_StdModule).CodeModule If .CountOfLines > 0 Then .DeleteLines 1, .CountOfLines .AddFromString LibRemoteCode() .Parent.Name = "LibRemote" End With book.SaveAs GetBookPath(), XlFileFormat.xlOpenXMLAddIn ' If Not isVBOMOn Then book.Close False app.Quit Set app = Nothing EnableOfficeVBOM False Set app = NewApp() app.Workbooks.Open GetBookPath(), False, False End If Set CreateBookInRemoteApp = app SafeExit: End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Checks if VBProject is accessible programmatically. Setting is app level '******************************************************************************* Private Function IsVBOMEnabled() As Boolean On Error Resume Next IsVBOMEnabled = Not Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject Is Nothing On Error GoTo 0 End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Apps like AutoCAD have the Object Model access on by default. This method is ' desgined for Microsoft Office VBA-capable applications '******************************************************************************* Private Function EnableOfficeVBOM(ByVal newValue As Boolean) As Boolean Dim i As Long: i = IIf(newValue, 1, 0) Dim rKey As String rKey = "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\" & Application.Version _ & "\" & Replace(Application.Name, "Microsoft ", vbNullString) _ & "\Security\AccessVBOM" On Error Resume Next CreateObject("WScript.Shell").RegWrite rKey, i, "REG_DWORD" EnableOfficeVBOM = (Err.Number = 0) On Error GoTo 0 End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Returns the handle for the main VB IDE window '******************************************************************************* Private Function GetVBIDEHWnd() As LongPtr If m_VBIDEHWnd = 0 Then If IsVBOMEnabled() Then m_VBIDEHWnd = Application.VBE.MainWindow.hWnd Else EnumThreadWindows GetCurrentThreadId, AddressOf EnumThreadWndProcVBIDE, 0 End If End If GetVBIDEHWnd = m_VBIDEHWnd End Function Private Function EnumThreadWndProcVBIDE(ByVal hWnd As LongPtr _ , ByVal lParam As LongPtr) As Long Const className As String = "wndclass_desked_gsk" Const bufferSize As Long = 260 Dim cName As String * bufferSize ' If Left$(cName, GetClassName(hWnd, cName, bufferSize)) = className Then m_VBIDEHWnd = hWnd Exit Function End If EnumThreadWndProcVBIDE = 1 End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Returns the handle for the '<Ready>' window under the parent 'Locals' window '******************************************************************************* Private Function GetReadyHWnd() As LongPtr Static readyHWnd As LongPtr If readyHWnd = 0 Then Dim localsHWnd As LongPtr localsHWnd = FindWindowEx(GetVBIDEHWnd(), 0, vbNullString, "Locals") readyHWnd = FindWindowEx(localsHWnd, 0, "Edit", vbNullString) End If GetReadyHWnd = readyHWnd End Function '******************************************************************************* 'Code running 'on the other side' '******************************************************************************* Private Function LibRemoteCode() As String Dim s As String Const n As String = vbNewLine s = s & "Option Explicit" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "#If VBA7 = 0 Then" & n s = s & " Public Enum LongPtr" & n s = s & " [_]" & n s = s & " End Enum" & n s = s & "#End If" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "#If VBA7 Then" & n s = s & " Private Declare PtrSafe Function IsWindow Lib ""user32"" (ByVal hWnd As LongPtr) As Long" & n s = s & " Private Declare PtrSafe Function SendMessage Lib ""user32"" Alias ""SendMessageA"" (ByVal hWnd As LongPtr, ByVal wMsg As Long, ByVal wParam As LongPtr, ByVal lParam As LongPtr) As LongPtr" & n s = s & " Public Declare PtrSafe Sub Sleep Lib ""kernel32"" (ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long)" & n s = s & "#Else" & n s = s & " Private Declare Function IsWindow Lib ""user32"" (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long" & n s = s & " Private Declare Function SendMessage Lib ""user32"" Alias ""SendMessageA"" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal wMsg As Long, ByVal wParam As Long, ByVal lParam As Long) As Long" & n s = s & " Public Declare Sub Sleep Lib ""kernel32"" (ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long)" & n s = s & "#End If" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Private m_appTimers As AppTimers" & n s = s & "Private m_readyHWnd As LongPtr" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function GetReadyHWnd() As LongPtr" & n s = s & " GetReadyHWnd = m_readyHWnd" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function GetBookTimers(ByVal readyHWnd As LongPtr _" & n s = s & " , ByVal bookID As String _" & n s = s & " , ByVal tProc As LongPtr) As BookTimers" & n s = s & " If m_readyHWnd = 0 Then" & n s = s & " m_readyHWnd = readyHWnd" & n s = s & " Set m_appTimers = New AppTimers" & n s = s & " Application.OnTime Now(), ""MainLoop""" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & " With New BookTimers" & n s = s & " .Init bookID, tProc" & n s = s & " m_appTimers.Add .Self" & n s = s & " Set GetBookTimers = .Self" & n s = s & " End With" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Sub MainLoop()" & n s = s & " Do While IsWindow(m_readyHWnd)" & n s = s & " m_appTimers.CheckRefs" & n s = s & " If m_appTimers.Count > 0 And m_appTimers.CanPost Then" & n s = s & " If Not m_appTimers.PopIfNeeded Then Sleep 1" & n s = s & " Else" & n s = s & " Sleep 1" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & " DoEvents" & n s = s & " Loop" & n s = s & " Set m_appTimers = Nothing" & n s = s & " Application.Quit" & n s = s & "End Sub" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function IsIDEReady() As Boolean" & n s = s & " Const readyLabelCurANSI As String = ""1758492059378.1308"" '<Ready>" & n s = s & " Static readyLabel As Currency" & n s = s & " Const WM_GETTEXT As Long = &HD" & n s = s & " Dim buff As Currency" & n s = s & " '" & n s = s & " If readyLabel = 0 Then readyLabel = CCur(readyLabelCurANSI)" & n s = s & " If SendMessage(m_readyHWnd, WM_GETTEXT, 8, VarPtr(buff)) = 0 Then Exit Function" & n s = s & " IsIDEReady = (buff = readyLabel)" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function NowMSec() As Date" & n s = s & " Const secondsPerDay As Long = 24& * 60& * 60&" & n s = s & " NowMSec = Date + Round(Timer, 3) / secondsPerDay" & n s = s & "End Function" LibRemoteCode = s End Function Private Function TimerContainerCode() As String Dim s As String Const n As String = vbNewLine s = s & "Option Explicit" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Private m_hWnd As LongPtr" & n s = s & "Private m_nIDEvent As LongPtr" & n s = s & "Private m_id As String" & n s = s & "Private m_delayMs As Long" & n s = s & "Private m_earliestTime As Date" & n s = s & "Private m_originalTime As Date" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Sub Init(ByRef hWnd As LongPtr _" & n s = s & " , ByRef nIDEvent As LongPtr _" & n s = s & " , ByRef sID As String _" & n s = s & " , ByRef delayMs As Long _" & n s = s & " , ByRef callTime As Date)" & n s = s & " m_hWnd = hWnd" & n s = s & " m_nIDEvent = nIDEvent" & n s = s & " m_id = sID" & n s = s & " m_delayMs = delayMs" & n s = s & " m_earliestTime = callTime" & n s = s & " m_originalTime = m_earliestTime" & n s = s & "End Sub" & n s = s & "Public Function Self() As TimerContainer" & n s = s & " Set Self = Me" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "Public Property Get hWnd() As LongPtr" & n s = s & " hWnd = m_hWnd" & n s = s & "End Property" & n s = s & "Public Property Get EventID() As LongPtr" & n s = s & " EventID = m_nIDEvent" & n s = s & "End Property" & n s = s & "Public Property Get ID() As String" & n s = s & " ID = m_id" & n s = s & "End Property" & n s = s & "Public Property Get Delay() As Long" & n s = s & " Delay = m_delayMs" & n s = s & "End Property" & n s = s & "Public Property Get EarliestTime() As Date" & n s = s & " EarliestTime = m_earliestTime" & n s = s & "End Property" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Sub UpdateTime()" & n s = s & " Const msPerDay As Long = 24& * 60& * 60& * 1000&" & n s = s & " Dim daysDelay As Double" & n s = s & " Dim skipCount As Long" & n s = s & " '" & n s = s & " daysDelay = m_delayMs / msPerDay" & n s = s & " skipCount = Int((NowMSec - m_originalTime) / daysDelay)" & n s = s & " m_earliestTime = m_originalTime + (skipCount + 1) * daysDelay" & n s = s & "End Sub" TimerContainerCode = s End Function Private Function AppTimersCode() As String Dim s As String Const n As String = vbNewLine s = s & "Option Explicit" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Private m_bookTimers As Collection" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Private Sub Class_Initialize()" & n s = s & " Set m_bookTimers = New Collection" & n s = s & "End Sub" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Private Sub Class_Terminate()" & n s = s & " Set m_bookTimers = Nothing" & n s = s & "End Sub" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Sub Add(ByVal bTimers As BookTimers)" & n s = s & " On Error Resume Next" & n s = s & " m_bookTimers.Remove bTimers.ID" & n s = s & " On Error GoTo 0" & n s = s & " m_bookTimers.Add bTimers, bTimers.ID" & n s = s & "End Sub" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function CanPost() As Boolean" & n s = s & " Dim bt As BookTimers" & n s = s & " For Each bt In m_bookTimers" & n s = s & " If Not bt.CanPost Then Exit Function" & n s = s & " Next bt" & n s = s & " CanPost = True" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Sub CheckRefs()" & n s = s & " Dim bt As BookTimers" & n s = s & " For Each bt In m_bookTimers" & n s = s & " If bt.RefsCount = 3 Then" & n s = s & " m_bookTimers.Remove bt.ID" & n s = s & " bt.KillBookTimer" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & " Next bt" & n s = s & "End Sub" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function Count() As Long" & n s = s & " Count = m_bookTimers.Count" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function PopIfNeeded() As Boolean" & n s = s & " Dim bt As BookTimers" & n s = s & " Dim minBT As BookTimers" & n s = s & " '" & n s = s & " For Each bt In m_bookTimers" & n s = s & " If minBT Is Nothing Then" & n s = s & " If bt.Count > 0 Then Set minBT = bt" & n s = s & " Else" & n s = s & " If bt.Count > 0 Then" & n s = s & " If bt.EarliestTime < minBT.EarliestTime Then" & n s = s & " Set minBT = bt" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & " Next bt" & n s = s & " If minBT Is Nothing Then" & n s = s & " PopIfNeeded = False" & n s = s & " Else" & n s = s & " PopIfNeeded = minBT.PopIfNeeded()" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & "End Function" AppTimersCode = s End Function Private Function BookTimersCode() As String Dim s As String Const n As String = vbNewLine s = s & "Option Explicit" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "#If VBA7 Then" & n s = s & " Private Declare PtrSafe Sub CopyMemory Lib ""kernel32"" Alias ""RtlMoveMemory"" (Destination As Any, Source As Any, ByVal Length As LongPtr)" & n s = s & " Private Declare PtrSafe Function IsWindow Lib ""user32"" (ByVal hWnd As LongPtr) As Long" & n s = s & " Private Declare PtrSafe Function PostMessage Lib ""user32"" Alias ""PostMessageA"" (ByVal hWnd As LongPtr, ByVal wMsg As Long, ByVal wParam As LongPtr, ByVal lParam As LongPtr) As Long" & n s = s & "#Else" & n s = s & " Private Declare Sub CopyMemory Lib ""kernel32"" Alias ""RtlMoveMemory"" (Destination As Any, Source As Any, ByVal Length As Long)" & n s = s & " Private Declare Function IsWindow Lib ""user32"" (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long" & n s = s & " Private Declare Function PostMessage Lib ""user32"" Alias ""PostMessageA"" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal wMsg As Long, ByVal wParam As Long, ByVal lParam As Long) As Long" & n s = s & "#End If" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "#If Win64 Then" & n s = s & " Private Const PTR_SIZE As Long = 8" & n s = s & "#Else" & n s = s & " Private Const PTR_SIZE As Long = 4" & n s = s & "#End If" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Private m_canPost As Boolean" & n s = s & "Private m_id As String" & n s = s & "Private m_refCount As Variant" & n s = s & "Private m_timers As Collection" & n s = s & "Private m_tProc As LongPtr" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Sub Init(ByVal bookID As String, ByVal tProc As LongPtr)" & n s = s & " m_id = bookID" & n s = s & " m_tProc = tProc" & n s = s & "End Sub" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Private Sub Class_Initialize()" & n s = s & " Set m_timers = New Collection" & n s = s & " SetRefCount" & n s = s & " m_canPost = True" & n s = s & "End Sub" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Private Sub Class_Terminate()" & n s = s & " Set m_timers = Nothing" & n s = s & " On Error Resume Next" & n s = s & " DeleteSetting ""SafeTimers"", m_id" & n s = s & " On Error GoTo 0" & n s = s & "End Sub" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Private Sub SetRefCount()" & n s = s & " Const VT_BYREF As Long = &H4000" & n s = s & " Dim iUnk As IUnknown: Set iUnk = Me" & n s = s & " m_refCount = ObjPtr(iUnk) + PTR_SIZE" & n s = s & " CopyMemory m_refCount, vbLong + VT_BYREF, 2" & n s = s & "End Sub" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Property Get RefsCount() As Long" & n s = s & " RefsCount = GetLongByRef(m_refCount)" & n s = s & "End Property" & n s = s & "Private Function GetLongByRef(ByRef v As Variant) As Long" & n s = s & " GetLongByRef = v" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function Count() As Long" & n s = s & " Count = m_timers.Count" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Property Get ID() As String" & n s = s & " ID = m_id" & n s = s & "End Property" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function Self() As BookTimers" & n s = s & " Set Self = Me" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Property Get CanPost() As Boolean" & n s = s & " If Not m_canPost Then" & n s = s & " m_canPost = (GetSetting(""SafeTimers"", m_id, ""CanPost"") = ""True"")" & n s = s & " If m_canPost Then" & n s = s & " Dim lostID As String" & n s = s & " lostID = GetSetting(""SafeTimers"", m_id, ""LostID"")" & n s = s & " If LenB(lostID) > 0 Then" & n s = s & " DeleteTimer lostID" & n s = s & " DeleteSetting ""SafeTimers"", m_id, ""LostID""" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & " CanPost = m_canPost" & n s = s & "End Property" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Property Get EarliestTime() As Date" & n s = s & " EarliestTime = m_timers(1).EarliestTime" & n s = s & "End Property" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function AddTimer(ByVal hWnd As LongPtr _" & n s = s & " , ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr _" & n s = s & " , ByVal sID As String _" & n s = s & " , ByVal delayMs As Long) As Boolean" & n s = s & " DeleteTimer sID" & n s = s & " With New TimerContainer" & n s = s & " Const msPerDay As Long = 24& * 60& * 60& * 1000&" & n s = s & " Dim nextRun As Date: nextRun = NowMSec() + delayMs / msPerDay" & n s = s & " '" & n s = s & " .Init hWnd, nIDEvent, sID, delayMs, nextRun" & n s = s & " InsertTimer .Self" & n s = s & " End With" & n s = s & " AddTimer = True" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function DeleteTimer(ByVal sID As String) As Boolean" & n s = s & " On Error Resume Next" & n s = s & " m_timers.Remove sID" & n s = s & " DeleteTimer = (Err.Number = 0)" & n s = s & " On Error GoTo 0" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function DeleteAllTimers() As Boolean" & n s = s & " Set m_timers = New Collection" & n s = s & " DeleteAllTimers = True" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Private Sub InsertTimer(ByRef container As TimerContainer)" & n s = s & " Dim tc As TimerContainer" & n s = s & " Dim i As Long: i = 1" & n s = s & " '" & n s = s & " For Each tc In m_timers" & n s = s & " If tc.EarliestTime > container.EarliestTime Then Exit For" & n s = s & " i = i + 1" & n s = s & " Next tc" & n s = s & " If m_timers.Count = 0 Or i > m_timers.Count Then" & n s = s & " m_timers.Add Item:=container, Key:=container.ID" & n s = s & " Else" & n s = s & " m_timers.Add Item:=container, Key:=container.ID, Before:=i" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & "End Sub" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Function PopIfNeeded() As Boolean" & n s = s & " Const WM_TIMER As Long = &H113" & n s = s & " Dim tc As TimerContainer: Set tc = m_timers(1)" & n s = s & " '" & n s = s & " If tc.EarliestTime > NowMSec() Then Exit Function" & n s = s & " If Not IsIDEReady() Then Exit Function" & n s = s & " '" & n s = s & " m_timers.Remove 1" & n s = s & " If PostMessage(tc.hWnd, WM_TIMER, tc.EventID, m_tProc) = 0& Then" & n s = s & " If IsWindow(tc.hWnd) = 0& Then Exit Function" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & " m_canPost = False" & n s = s & " PopIfNeeded = True" & n s = s & " '" & n s = s & " tc.UpdateTime" & n s = s & " InsertTimer tc" & n s = s & "End Function" & n s = s & "" & n s = s & "Public Sub KillBookTimer()" & n s = s & " Const WM_TIMER As Long = &H113" & n s = s & " Dim rHWnd As LongPtr: rHWnd = GetReadyHWnd()" & n s = s & " Dim tID As LongPtr: tID = VBA.Int(m_id)" & n s = s & " '" & n s = s & " Do While IsWindow(rHWnd)" & n s = s & " If IsIDEReady() Then" & n s = s & " If PostMessage(rHWnd, WM_TIMER, tID, m_tProc) <> 0& Then Exit Do" & n s = s & " End If" & n s = s & " Sleep 1" & n s = s & " Loop" & n s = s & "End Sub" BookTimersCode = s End Function ``` ```SafeDispatch``` class module: ```VBA '''============================================================================= ''' Excel-VBA-SafeTimers ''' ---------------------------------------------------- ''' https://github.com/cristianbuse/Excel-VBA-SafeTimers ''' ---------------------------------------------------- ''' MIT License ''' ''' Copyright (c) 2022 Ion Cristian Buse ''' ''' Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy ''' of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to ''' deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the ''' rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or ''' sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is ''' furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: ''' ''' The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in ''' all copies or substantial portions of the Software. ''' ''' THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR ''' IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, ''' FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE ''' AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER ''' LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING ''' FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS ''' IN THE SOFTWARE. '''============================================================================= Option Explicit Private Type POINTAPI x As Long y As Long End Type Private Type MSG hWnd As LongPtr wMsg As Long wParam As LongPtr lParam As LongPtr wTime As Long pt As POINTAPI End Type #If VBA7 Then Private Declare PtrSafe Function DispatchMessage Lib "user32" Alias "DispatchMessageA" (lpMsg As MSG) As LongPtr Private Declare PtrSafe Function KillTimerAPI Lib "user32" Alias "KillTimer" (ByVal hWnd As LongPtr, ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr) As Long Private Declare PtrSafe Function SetTimerAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetTimer" (ByVal hWnd As LongPtr, ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr, ByVal uElapse As Long, ByVal lpTimerFunc As LongPtr) As LongPtr #Else Private Declare Function DispatchMessage Lib "user32" Alias "DispatchMessageA" (lpMsg As MSG) As Long Private Declare Function KillTimerAPI Lib "user32" Alias "KillTimer" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal nIDEvent As Long) As Long Private Declare Function SetTimerAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetTimer" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal nIDEvent As Long, ByVal uElapse As Long, ByVal lpTimerFunc As Long) As Long #End If Private m_msg As MSG Private m_bookID As String Public Sub Init(ByVal hWnd As LongPtr _ , ByVal wMsg As Long _ , ByVal wParam As LongPtr _ , ByVal lParam As LongPtr _ , ByVal wTime As Long _ , ByVal bookID As String) With m_msg .hWnd = hWnd .wMsg = wMsg .wParam = wParam .lParam = lParam .wTime = wTime End With m_bookID = bookID End Sub Private Sub Class_Terminate() If LenB(m_bookID) = 0 Then Exit Sub 'In case state was lost ' Const USER_TIMER_MAXIMUM As Long = &H7FFFFFFF 'Around 25 days With m_msg If SetTimerAPI(.hWnd, .wParam, USER_TIMER_MAXIMUM, .lParam) <> 0 Then DispatchMessage m_msg KillTimerAPI .hWnd, .wParam Else SaveSetting "SafeTimers", m_bookID, "LostID", .hWnd & "_" & .wParam End If End With SaveSetting "SafeTimers", m_bookID, "CanPost", "True" End Sub ``` ## Demo Here is a quick demo running 2 timers that stop after running 20 times each: ```VBA Option Explicit Private Const FIXED_ID As LongPtr = 5 Private m_dynamicID As LongPtr Public Sub DemoMain() SetTimer ThisWorkbook.Windows(1).hWnd, FIXED_ID, 20, AddressOf TimerProc m_dynamicID = SetTimer(0, 0, 50, AddressOf TimerProc) End Sub Private Sub TimerProc(ByVal hWnd As LongPtr _ , ByVal wMsg As Long _ , ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr _ , ByVal wTime As Long) Select Case nIDEvent Case FIXED_ID FixedIDTimer hWnd, nIDEvent Case m_dynamicID DynamicIDTimer hWnd, nIDEvent Case Else RemoveAllTimers End Select End Sub Private Sub FixedIDTimer(ByVal hWnd As LongPtr, ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr) Static c As Long c = c + 1 If c = 20 Then KillTimer hWnd, nIDEvent Debug.Print Round(CDbl(Timer), 3), hWnd, nIDEvent, "Fixed" End Sub Private Sub DynamicIDTimer(ByVal hWnd As LongPtr, ByVal nIDEvent As LongPtr) Static c As Long c = c + 1 If c = 20 Then KillTimer hWnd, nIDEvent Debug.Print Round(CDbl(Timer), 3), hWnd, nIDEvent, "Dynamic" End Sub ``` And of course, the 'gif' - @Greedo™ - bit small to fit the 2MB limit but hopefully not too small: ![gif](https://i.sstatic.net/u4s6z.gif) *** Any feedback or comments are welcome! There are a lot of decisions I took as I improved on my own solution and some might not be obvious. If you have any questions then please use the comments section. Thank you!